Talking Nutrition

48 - [Venting Session] Privilege, Social Media Highlights, Hard Work, And More...

May 22, 2023 Kristine Andali & Johan Vesters
Talking Nutrition
48 - [Venting Session] Privilege, Social Media Highlights, Hard Work, And More...
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This week Kristine and Johan catch up, rant, and vent about people throwing around the word 'privilege' a little too easily, the state of the world and social media, hard work, and more..

We feel like this one might ruffle some feathers, but it's stuff that needs to be talked about more, in our opinion.

That being said, please know that it is totally OK to disagree with us. And that it's always better to talk about stuff, than to throw around remarks and comments just because people share different opinions.

We appreciate you for listening! :)

Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction / Catching Up
10:32 Living In A 'Privileged Body'
18:01 Making Remarks Without Knowing What People Went Through
21:53 "Good Times Create Weak Men"
34:39 It Should Be OK To Agree To Disagree


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What is up i Welcome back to Talking Nutrition episode 48. Today without Kristine been in minutes well I've had definitely like a weird few weeks just dealing with some burnout for sure. It's, you know, it comes from a good place. Can you hear me? Yeah, it comes from a good place as far as like, why I'm burnt out, you know what I mean? Just like tonight on my plate. From a business standpoint, I put myself into three different men mentorships at one time that I thought I could handle and I honestly have learned an insane amount in a very short period of time. But it definitely from like a brain capacity standpoint, I hit a wall. And like, what that felt like for me was I had like, no creativity. Everything I started, like almost feeling apathetic about some stuff, like different things. And mind you like I'm doing all of that plus, I have like 30 clients and like, this is a superficial coaching. And, you know, I do like, both of us are like one man shows, right? So like, we do everything for our businesses. And I'm not complaining, like I'm not complaining whatsoever. But that's what happened. And so I was like, Oh my gosh, like, I didn't even have the capacity to get in the gym and use my brain to like work out in the gym. All my focus was on my clients. That's like it. That's it, that's all I could focus on, which is obviously really important. So like, I kind of just set things off to the side for a couple of weeks. And I didn't train for a full week, like all in that alone made a massive difference. And I posted about this saying that it wasn't the training that was causing me the issues. But that was one thing that I could take off my plate, right. And then from like a stress standpoint, we know training is still a stressor on the system. And so even though it wasn't the training that was causing it, like I'm not training a lot by any means. It was something that I could lessen the load with essentially, right. So took that off, just focused on walking started doing like one thing was doing the podcast every other week. I took time off posting on Instagram, like kind of just didn't post a whole lot. And then now I'm starting to feel better. And so I think that's just a good thing to talk about. Because I think people they like fear pulling back because they feel like they're going backwards. But sometimes, like that, quote of like you have to take two steps back to take, you know, five steps forward type thing that is this situation, right? It's just same as in like training, you know, you have to take the rest days, you have to take the leap, the D loads in order to progress forward. And you when you're an entrepreneur and you have your own business, you can really, really get caught up in just like non stop working. And I felt like I was doing pretty good at that. But I think it was just a lot at one time. Over like five months. So yeah, that's where I'm at. And then I'm going to Texas tomorrow to meet with Casey Jo, who's my mentor, obviously, we had her on here. And so she's going to be doing it was supposed to be like six of us. And now there's only two mentees going so me and another girl. So now we go. So I was just gonna say like now it's like a deep dive like really individualized stuff, which is awesome, which I'm really excited about. So I'm going to be spending Friday Saturday with Casey, Joe. And then I'm just spending the rest of the week till Thursday in. In Texas. I have clients out there so I'm going to meet up with clients. So I'm looking forward to that just like a routine change. scenery change. I like Texas a lot. They have like fantastic food in terms of like they have like full blown, like gluten free restaurants and stuff. And I'm gluten free because it makes me sick. Like I'm not, not by choice just to like, remind people that of that. But it's really cool. Like there's this like one. There's this one restaurant I looked up and I was like, Holy crap, this place is going far. Like they use no gluten, no dairy, no non GMO, no refined sugars, no seed oils of like, Oh, they've really what is it called? 2023? Yeah, that's, that's what's going on with me. That's cool. I like Texas a lot. We played a few shows there a couple of years ago, I think like five years ago, maybe. So obviously, we had to do a lot of driving. Like usually on tours, like, you drive you get to the venue, you maybe like walk down the street, you have like half an hour, you know, 45 minutes, whatever. Go back to the venue, Ed play the show. And then it's kind of like trying to get a little bit of sleep, you know, or drive, especially in the US, but I really liked it there. I feel like also just from like, following people on social media and a bunch who like live there. I feel like that could be like a spot where I I could live, right? Totally. Like, I like New York, for example. But like, that's not a place where I would want to live if that makes sense. You know? I would never live there. Crazy. Oh my gosh, yeah. No, that's why I'm up here in Norway. But no, that's cool. That's, that's good to hear that it's it's gonna kind of slow down. You know, because I feel like you me both. Like we've had the craziest year so far, right? It's just been like building like, fucking buildings. Yeah. So what's going on? And there's even kind of ties a little bit into what, you know, the topic we want to talk about today. But people just see kind of like the highlights, you know, they see the podcast, and maybe a few posts here or there. And like an Instagram story, Hey, did you train today, you know, like, like, those kinds of things. And sometimes we share our client wins. And we, you know, we talk about that. But it's, it's been a fucking year. I mean, I cannot believe that it's May 17. Right now. Insane. It's just New Years. That's exactly how I feel. I mean, I guess it's a good thing. Right? Because, I mean, if you're really passion about something you're working hard, like, Time does fly, you know? Yeah. But it's kind of wild. Like we're almost like, halfway into 2023, you know, and wild. It's mostly just been work. It's exciting to like, I love the shit. And it is my passion, of course, too. And that's, I mean, that's why we do this stuff, you know, like, we wouldn't be doing this and like putting so much into it if it wasn't like a passion project. Exactly, exactly. Now, that being said, actually a couple updates against here. I'm actually going on my first vacation next month. My first like, actual vacation, and not first vacation. Sorry, but like, first actual vacation, where I will not work. Since I started my company in 2020. I know you're gonna be very proud of me. But that's gonna be my first one. I told people already. I'm like, hey, you know, and the end of June, from our office, like, I'll make sure you guys know exactly what to work on. And there's going to be my first time, actually just, you know, I won't, I won't work, no writing no nothing. I before I used to emails, and even did a couple of calls on tours of two, which wasn't really vacation but like, I was always doing shit. Even when I was in Spain with my parents and stuff, you know, now it's kind of like, now I'm off. You're gonna see my parents as well. Couple of friends, you know, bless you. much looking forward to that. And I think that's maybe something right, that we do need to remember too. And this really plays into what you just mentioned, we need to slow down and recover and rest and have those periods because you can only go so far. And then you hit a wall. You know, like you're kind of going through that now. I had I think it was March ish somewhere like there was a point where I like kind of hit a wall. It needs to you know, you have to recharge you have to stop sometimes because you will not be able to just keep going like that. And that is when you either had burnout, getting sick, injury, those kinds of things. It really depends on kind of like what you're doing, you know. But that being said, right? It's all So a lot of artwork, which was tied into today's topic, because we kind of wanted to talk about something that you mentioned, you texted me and you were like, you know, should have put this up. Because what was it again? How did you mention this? Because I remember telling you like, yeah, yeah, absolutely. You should post about this, and actually want to do a podcast about this. But like, what was it again, that you weren't sure about putting up? Was it the post or like the comment or something? It was the post. Because like, there, I feel like this is a really the word privileged is a really like, touchy thing for people. And it ruffles feathers, because there's people out there who think like, I mean, it this can this can be become an issue. But it was basically about what it was basically about a comment that someone made to me, and it was actually years ago, okay, this was years ago, but it's never, I've never forgotten about it, because it was such a crazy comment to me. Like, I was like, I couldn't believe like someone actually said it. Because they have absolutely no idea who I am, where I came from, what I deal with how hard I've worked, like they had to they just have no idea. Right? So the reason why I was hesitant on posting it was because of the privileged part because people will say I'm regardless, regardless, I'm privileged, because like I have like, like I'm working the post had me working out my home gym, like I'm privileged because I have a home gym, you know, type of thing, like people will say that though I've worked. Me and my my fiance have worked extremely hard to like, have these things that we have, right? It's not like we just, they were just given to us type thing. Like, yeah, there's definitely people who are privileged in this world. But I think too many people use that, and put it on people that they have no idea about. And so this is what happened with me. And this girl told me that she said that I lived in a privileged body. And I'm like, what? Like you, like just based off of how I look based off of like my lean physique. That's what she was referring to. And I just like couldn't believe it. Oh, honestly. I definitely do not live in a privileged body for one. I have and maintain this lean physique, because of decades of hard work every single day. From a nutrition standpoint, from a physical standpoint, from a mindset standpoint, it's something that I'm I've cultivated over a long, long period of time. And I don't come from a good like, from a genetic standpoint, no, I don't, I actually do not come from like good genetics. My whole both sides of my family are overweight, okay, they're all there. And we know that that's not just due to genetics, like that's lifestyle factors. But my grandfather died from diabetes, I have other family members who are currently affected by it. If I don't keep my nutrition and my activity dialed in, like I very easily gain weight. It's not like I just am this way. You know, and, and from like, a chronic illness standpoint, like, yes, there is other illnesses in my family, too, right. But I know that that I'm, that's, that's what drives me. Right is to stay away from that because I know it runs in my family because I know I'm susceptible to these things. So to hear something like that is like really ignoring like the ongoing effort and dedication that it really takes to like maintain good health. And I'm not saying that like a super lean body means good health. That's not what I'm like referring to, but she was referring to the fact that I live in a privileged body because I mean, attain this physique, like, you can have body fat and still be in good health, but I also am not a person that believes that you can be healthy at any body size. Like, I don't believe that. I think you can love yourself. There's a difference. There's a difference, right? You can love yourself any way you look. But there's a tipping point when it comes to, you know, body size, like obesity and things like that. So that was what I was kind of teeter tottering back and forth about posting. Because, you know, even like she was she said it from the standpoint of like, privilege. But people get these comments all the time. Oh, you're so lucky. You know, you're so lucky. It comes easy to you. And it's like, what do people have? People have no idea like you look at, like just thinking about my client roster. Like none of this comes easy to people. It's a challenge. It's ongoing effort. Day after day after day. It's hard work day after day after day. It's never just this like super easy process for people. Right. And so to just say, you're lucky or bla bla bla is not fair. It's not fair. I just don't think it's right. Especially saying someone lives in a privileged body. Like why? Yeah, I just, it's, I mean, there's so many things wrong with just everything you just said, you know, like, I mean, from from their side, I mean, because first of all, again, like, like you said, people have no idea. And it's it's cool to have an opinion and all that. And that's fine. And it's, you know, people make assumptions, whatever. But don't just fucking throw something out there without thinking about it. You have no fucking idea what someone is going going through, you know, I even had someone mention, all I hate seeing all these wins from from other people that you're sharing. Because, because I'm struggling. And we had a chat, and you know, and I was like, Well, I feel you I understand, like, I know, because I know what you're going through. We're working on things. You know, give her a couple of tips, and, you know, those kind of things. But like, I also said that you have no idea that these like, what these people went through, you know, like the before. And I even told her like these two people, right? The specific posts. How's it you have no idea because these people really worked really fucking hard for more than a year. And it wasn't just smooth sailing, you know, it was really fucking difficult. And while the mental struggles and one person even stopped coaching for a little while, because she did burn out, which was other stuff, but like, and then came back and then still picked it up, and still had our ups and downs. You know what I mean? Like people work really fucking hard. So don't fucking just assume should and then throw something out there. That's like, privilege, or, you know, it's, oh, yeah, it's easy for you with your body. Like, no, fuck that. Yeah, I made I made a post about that one time, about when us coaches are putting wins out there that those clients had an extended period of time and still do like, just because they're, they're doing well in something doesn't mean they're not struggling with something else. Like it took them having these ups and downs and these challenges and the struggles and figuring it out before they they got to that point. It's not like they were just there. There's no like, they're just doing it. Like, it's taken them time as well. And I think people forget that, right. It's like, Instagram, you see the highlights, you see, like, even, you know, even when it comes to like, stories and things like that, you're seeing like 30 seconds of someone's day, right? Like you have no clue what's going on, and what they're dealing with and what they're doing, you know, all those other hours of the day. So, it's so important to remember that and not and when you're when you're thinking oh, like all these people are doing so well. It's like, well, how did they get there? Exactly. Like, you know, just like before and after two seconds, you know, like it's a lot of fucking it's work and I like what do you think we work with people for like, one two years plus, sometimes you know what I mean? Yeah, that's not because it's possible in the four weeks. And that's because I shared a lot only way, but but it's I feel like it's just the easy thing to do for people. And this even goes into when you're someone who's maybe trying to lose weight work on your fitness, your whatever it is you're trying to make changes right? Now you started to get those remarks whether it's a family member, colleague, friend, whatever, right? I mean, first of all, who gives a fuck what other people think. But I that's also something I have to work through personally. But like, a lot of the remarks, assuming that has been talked about, right, because we do want to bring this up beforehand, usually. But like, assuming that has been talked about a mention, hey, I want to do this for my health. If there's unseal remarks that comes from them, right? That's their insecurities often. And it's just easy thing to do. Oh, as your genomic genetics, right? It's your, you know, your privileged backgrounds, it's your body, you know, those kind of things. It's like, well, no, you just mentioned, for example, that there's, you know, diseases in the family, that you're working hard to, you know, not having to deal with, you know, in the future. And it's so easy to make those remarks. So when you see something, and this is something that I'm kind of like struggling with, where I have a hard time with, I should say, these days, it's I had this written down for a later section, but like, There's this quote, we just talked about this too. It goes hard times great, strong men, strong men create good times, good times, create weak men and weak men create hard times. Now just told Kristine as well, I feel like we're riding in between gonna like the good times create weak men and we can create hard times like, yeah, I feel like we've had a too good. Basically, right. Everything needs to be fast and convenient. And no effort and needs to be quick, right? And if Amazon doesn't deliver in two seconds, we're pissed off, right? Yeah. Something is coming from fucking China in two seconds. And you're paying like $1 for the show, we get angry a lot these days. You know what I mean? Like, actually, yeah, I know, is it's, everything needs to be easy. And I get it too. You know, as I feel like, we're we're kind of wired like that, you know, I guess. Like, we're much we would much rather go for like the easy ship, right? If there's a shortcut. And we're in health and fitness, we know that that's the kind of like the ship that sells to, you know, because that's what we do. But that, but I feel like that's because of the society we live in. Because it was never, it was never like that. Free Will in, like, into history is never like that, you know, like, think about even just the simplicity of like, sending a text message, like you had to write a letter. Everything was longer. So we live in this, this instant gratification type world, you know what I mean? And it's doesn't, it doesn't help anything in my opinion. Because yes, we have these, we typically have these unrealistic expectations that are, whether it's with our body, like whatever it is, that's being influenced by this world that we live in, you know what I mean? Yeah, and with those remarks, right? It's just kind of like it's almost like maybe like this, this, this feeling of, well, fuck, I see these people are doing the hard work, and you're successful. But I'm not. It's a little bit of a fixed mindset as well. I was just gonna say that. Yeah, of course we do. Also, we can create that and it's, it's a bit of a tricky, like, a touchy point, I guess. But like, seeing that and then just kind of use that as if like, okay, they have a better like, it's not for me, like, you know, right. So I can do that. Like I even had this when I moved to Norway, right. I literally I traveled there I fell in love with the country. And I got a job and literally after my trip I moved here like five weeks later I just did it you know when me I used to make a lot of those decisions for me to just kind of go let's go and then I've got this picture or three comment on their picture of like how you're so lucky. Then after got some questions like hey, you know, I'm kind of looking into, you know, going around the world and, you know, traveling and work and this kind of thing and you know, blah blah, blah. And I was like, You know what to do like, you just got to go if you want to do that shit, like you just have to jump in and just do it and maybe figured out along the way, but overthinking it and kind of like just saying like, Okay, I can't do that, or I don't have that opportunity. Like, that's bullshit everyone can write, like, I traveled the world and like, I didn't have a lot of money for that either. You know what I mean? I spent all my money doing it. I made it work. I also slept at airports, on floors and shifts to, you know, those kind of things and rental cars, like super cold or uncomfortable just to make that work, right, just so I could at least have around the car, and then have a place to sleep kind of like dry, you know, and go hiking and shit. But like, it's so easy to just kind of see that snapshot of hey, exactly. And then the whole context, like what goes behind you, it goes on beyond that. Does get neglected, you know, I mean? Oh, yeah. It's, I have a really good example of this too. Because my, my, my father, yes, it's a lot. My dad does not come from money. He's self made. And people just assumed that he got what he had handed to him. So he was he had, like, at one point, I think, like six car dealerships, right. And, gosh, do these stuff that I've seen that man go through over the years is just insane. It drove me to never want to do it, because it was just so insane. But he's very, very successful. But people see that and they don't see the 40 years before. And they assume that he it was handed to him, where like, he literally once he was done High School, he moved to Toronto, he lived in like a 400 square feet room that was full of cockroaches. He worked like 80 to 100 hours a week at this mechanic shop learning from these like Chinese guys. And he did that for like few years came home started working in his garage and built from there yet people say, Oh, no, like, you know, it's just handed to him. And it's just insane. So insane to me. They have no clue. But they see a man who's done well for himself has a lot of money. And the thing is, is my dad is a super like, like you would look at him like and not think that he's just he's not he doesn't flaunt it very much like he's got his stuff that he absolutely loves. Like he. This is another thing when he was 19 he got a Ferrari, like the Ferrari horse tattoo on his arm, because he's just love Ferraris his whole life. He's got a passion for cars, right, obviously. So he got this Ferrari tattoo on his arm. He was. So he got that at 19 at 57 He got his first Ferrari. He was able to get it. How funny is that though? You know, is it is freaking awesome. I'm like, This man. Just like put his whole heart soul life into this over the past 40 years and finally got to the point where you could buy himself a Ferrari because it's something he's very, very passionate about. Isn't flaunted or anything like that. But yeah, I mean, people just discredit it, they see the Ferrari and they're like, ah, privilege. Yeah, I can't stand that shed. I feel that around me too. And, and because, yeah, I was talking to some friends about this. And, you know, I have some friends who they do work a lot. They don't have that much income and sometimes struggle, you know, trying to make it work and which is hard, obviously, you know, I feel like we've all been there at some point. But most people at least, unless the privileged ones know but like, you know, they, I mean, people struggle, you know, it's hard. But then I also have remarks like I saw someone post someone had in their Instagram bio something because they were like, politically involved or whatever we're trying to be like, billionaire shouldn't exist or something like that. And then this person is like shitting on fuckin like Bill Gates and Amazon and an apple and those kinds of companies. And which other one I heard Alex or Mozi He talked about this on his podcast, I think as well, where he also talked about people making comments like, oh, yeah, with for you, it's easy because you have that much of a following. But no, you fucking create that, you know, like, it takes that point. But it's like, we can shit on people with money, or who are successful in anything, you know, whatever it is. But, and of course, there's a lot of like, weird shit going on like, yeah, whether it's a lot of money involved, but like that aside, right? It's the fact that someone successful has a lot of money, whatever. Like, why is that like a bad thing? These people work really fucking hard to get to that point. Right? And I'm not even like defending them or whatever, because I don't know these people. Right? I'm just saying like, we need to be willing to actually do the fucking work as does maybe one issue here, right? Because what it takes what we help people with, with their fat loss goals with your muscle gain, your your your health issues, your performance, like whatever it is, right? There is no easy way to do this shit. Right? Like, there is none. And it sounds great, though. It'll just take the fat burner, or whatever, you know. But like, there is actually no easy way to get through this stuff. It does take hard work to actually be successful for that to last. Right. And of course, it's easy for some people than others. But the other day, like you do need to actually do something for this. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And he was so this, this episode is more of like, oh, no vent, rant, whatever you want to call it. But I just I think it's so needed to be talked about, and people are gonna agree and people are gonna disagree. And that's cool. Guys, dads, okay. It's okay to disagree with people. Like, that's another problem with our society is like, oh my gosh, like, can't disagree. can't disagree. Hey, we can totally agree to disagree. Like that should be sadly normalized. And that's another thing in fitness phase two, you don't even want to actually I was going to suggest this for a future episode. The comment section on YouTube I don't even I just see what you want to do on YouTube. I just upload you know, but notifications. And it's always just kind of like people throwing shit at you, you know. And it's not even that crazy. But like, that's a whole other story. I can't believe people just sit there and just comment nasty things to be like, this is the world we live in. They hide behind the screen things you would never say to someone's face. Like it's so annoying. I know. I know. There's a quote and I have no idea how it goes when it's I think it's Mike Tyson, when he talks about how people just say shit, and they get away with it these days without getting punched in the face. Like, exactly. He did say that. Because they would get punched out, like actually. And I was like, totally just kind of like, well, I'll just throw shit out. You know, anyone and I'll get away with it. I'll just log out of my computer. That's it. You know Stokley. I wonder sometimes I really wonder what what people kind of like, what they go through? I don't know, for them to kind of be like, Okay, this is what I'm going to do right now. I'm gonna go online man, I couldn't, I couldn't imagine how burnt out they feel like having to expend energy, negative energy like that all day. Frick. So you brought up a really good point, a guy is like, please do feel free to disagree with us, too. You know what I mean? Ya know, and that's even why I told you, I hate just post. Because at the end of the day, it is your platform. And you can have an opinion and a take on something and that's totally cool. If someone agrees that's great. But if they don't, that's also great. Yeah, like it's a bit of a rant, venting episode or whatever. But I think it's kind of good to just talk about this stuff. Sometimes. You know, I agree. Because we do kind of live in a world where a lot of shit is just kind of like, well, it's we're just going to kind of shed on everything kind of like, that's not really, you know, within our control. Well, I also feel like we tiptoe around and we don't say things like this is Don't worry of like hurting people's feelings. Right and like there's a line with that too like we need to what's the word like buckle up like a little bit like not you know like it's okay from a standpoint of like okay you disagree but I'm also not just gonna like soften things to not hurt your feelings and that's that's me yeah people go yeah like that that's that's very soft fucking society just generally speaking you know oh yeah we do we do we do we do I actually have a meeting coming up so I do actually go to I have a call to get to you know it's good yeah. Good to talk to you again. I'll I'll see you in a little bit. Do you have any other kind of things coming up that you want to share with the listener? If they still want to listen to us after this episode? I'm not right now. I don't think no. Cool. mean either. I don't think at least. That being said. I'll talk to you very soon. Kristine did lesser thanks for listening. If you do agree with us feel free to share this in your stories. Drop us a quick review. If you don't agree with us. Don't give us like a one star rating like only five stars please. We can't handle we can't emotionally handle what's Tommy. I can't handle I'm too soft today. Have a great week Kristine and join Texas did listener I will talk to you

Introduction / Catching Up
Living In A 'Privileged Body'
Making Remarks Without Knowing What People Went Through
"Good Times Create Weak Men"
It Should Be OK To Agree To Disagree